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  What strange counsel did YOU GIVE to others?

  by Funchback in

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  alright.... so in another thread, most of us have been counseled for some lame stuff, and the responses range from funny to shocking.. now, let's focus on you giving counsel to others.

  come on, don't be shy!.

  i'll begin:.

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  Nathan Natas

  John Free said, " the washtowel believes that a fertilised egg is a life."

  It IS a life, isn't it? If it isn't, at what point and because of what event does it BECOME alive?
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  What strange counsel did YOU GIVE to others?

  by Funchback in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  alright.... so in another thread, most of us have been counseled for some lame stuff, and the responses range from funny to shocking.. now, let's focus on you giving counsel to others.

  come on, don't be shy!.

  i'll begin:.

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  Nathan Natas

  I think that during my entire "career" as a pioneer I conducted a grand total of TWO Home Bible* Studies. One was with a sweet little old lady who was lonely and just wanted some attention from a handsome young man. She got me instead.

  The other Home Bible Study was with the two pre-teen daughters of a couple in our territory who had been disfellowshipped for an abortion she had after her then-youngest daughter was born. They already had three kids and didn't want more.

  I had been a regular guest in their home for at least a year when Mom told me she needed to tell me a secret. I said "OK," and she told me that in the years since the couple had been disfellowshipped, they had other additional abortions. I wrestled with this for a few days, then went to the Congregation Overseer and told him what she told me.

  I think they were disfellowshipped again. I was not asked to appear at any judicial hearings. Not too long after that I left NYC and began working on my own exit from the Watchtower cult.

  There are people on this board who think I'm a schmuck.

  I am, and I'll tell on you too. Count on it.

  None of my "studies" ever got to the point of baptism.

  Oh, yeah, I almost forgot -- the sex was FANTASTIC!

  *In the WTB&TS, the word "Bible" means "Watchtower publications explaining the Bible, but NEVER just the Bible itself."
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  How HIGH did you climb the ranks as a JW? Did you like the STATUS?

  by unshackled in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so what were your biggest jw accomplishments as a rank & file?

  curious as to what level you climbed the r&f ladder while in the org, or if you still are in.. did you regular pioneer, or auxiliary pioneer?

  bethel?

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  Nathan Natas

  In my earlier post in this thread, I did not mean to suggest that ALL my boogers hit or landed on Knorr's hat.

  It was a significant percentage though, I assure you.

  Have you ever posted nonsense just to increase your tally of posts?

  I wouldn't, if I were you.
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  Why do the scan of all publications? To find "gems" like these

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  from a very obscure tract called "the broadcaster", july 13, 1925:.

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  Nathan Natas

  In my earlier post in this thread I wrote 6,000 when I meant 7,000.

  I hope my reputation doesn't suffer as a result of my fauxy pas.
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  "would you drink a glass of water if it had just a tiny bit of poison in it?"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no doubt we have all heard that well used "illustration" in public talks etc over the years:.

  "if you were handed a glass of water that looked pure, but were told it has just a tiny drop of poison in it, would you drink it?".

  the society has used that illustration at length to say we should avoid all influences of every part of the world.. but, as we know, the society has had a track record of errors, false ideas and doctrines.

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  Nathan Natas

  Q.: Would you drink a glass of water if it had just a tiny bit of poison in it?

  Commentary: Oddly enough, many of the people who ask this question believe in homeopathic medicine, which teaches that very dilute poisons are remedies. If these homeopathic JWs were intellectually consistent, they would feel that the best cure for apostasy is "just a bit" of apostasy.

  Personally, because I understand some basic ideas of math and chemistry, I know that homeopathy is JUNK SCIENCE, developed before we knew that the world was built of atoms and molecules, not "vibrations."
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  How HIGH did you climb the ranks as a JW? Did you like the STATUS?

  by unshackled in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so what were your biggest jw accomplishments as a rank & file?

  curious as to what level you climbed the r&f ladder while in the org, or if you still are in.. did you regular pioneer, or auxiliary pioneer?

  bethel?

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  Nathan Natas

  All the way. I was so far up the ladder I used to pick my nose and flick the boogers down onto N. H. Knorr's hat.
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  Using violence to end violence?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
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  it really is mind blowing when we think about it : witnesses have no problem with a deity who will use violence in order to end violence?!?!.

  armageddon will be gods war to kill billions of people...because it shows his love?.

  thoughts?.

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  Nathan Natas

  “Violence is seldom the answer. But when it is it’s the only answer.” -- Tim Larkin
  
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  Fatherless Boys

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt teaches that "fatherless boys" need special care and attention in the congregation.

  however, as brought out at the rc their definition of "fatherless boys" includes boys that have actual fathers who maybe very well qualified to teach and raise their sons.

  according to wt, if either of your parents aren't jws then you are a "fatherless boy.

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  Nathan Natas

  JW_Rogue informs us, "According to WT, if either of your parents aren't JWs then you are a "fatherless boy."

  So,

  If my father is a JW elder and my mother is either not a JW or is dead, I am considered a "FATHERLESS boy."

  Is Jehovah on 'shrooms?
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  Why do the scan of all publications? To find "gems" like these

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from a very obscure tract called "the broadcaster", july 13, 1925:.

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  Nathan Natas

  Anony Mous said, "The 6000 year model was created by some Catholic bishop and has been completely rejected by JWs for that reason."

  WHA-A-A-T?

  I never heard of that before.

  In fact, I'll go so far as to say that the 6,000-year model existed before Christianity. So I'm going to have to ask you for your papers (documentation, citations, etc.).
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  Which Watchtower publications did you keep?

  by Schnufti in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm currently cleaning up our bookcase and need to decide what goes into the trash.

  i'll keep the watchtower books that are not available online anymore (e.g.

  the brown "reasoning" book).

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  Nathan Natas

  Diogenesister asked,"Nathan N Is that the way to compost books?( am ignorant and interested)"

  YES, absolutely! Books are made of paper and cardboard. Both paper and cardboard are made from wood pulp and is almost entirely cellulose (a complex carbohydrate). Fungi LOVE carbohydrates, and simple, water-soluble carbs are really the 'shroom's "meow." That's how grape juice becomes wine - yeast are fungi. After wine is made, bacteria digest the wine to make vinegar. And so on and so forth...

  You could allow a mass of damp but not sopping wet books to innoculate by simply allowing them to be exposed to the air for a day - like making sourdough starter! Or you could order ONE OUNCE of Myco-Grow from http://www.fungi.com/product-detail/product/mycogrow-soluble-1-oz.html. A pound will treat most of your estate. You only need like 1/4 teaspoon for this project... Add the myco-grow to the dampening liquid...

  Then close the system and move it somewhere dark - a crypt, cave, or dungeon will do. Be sure that your dampening fluid contains one can of sugary soda and a bit - just a dropperful - of indoor plant food - to supply some nitrogen and potassium and phosphorus (N, K, P) to make the smörgåsbord seem even more appealing.

  In a couple of weeks the books will look HIDEOUS, with thin tendrils of ghostly white fungal mycellium running through the mass. At this point the "thing that was once books" can be mixed into your compost -- at the bottom of the pile where it is darkest. Earthworms will then move into the 'shroomsgåsbord and voila!

  Have fun! let us know how it goes!

  Recipe for dampening liquid - two gallons of water, one 12 can of cheap sugary soda if you have it or 1/4 cup of table sugar if you prefer, one dropperful of cheap indoor plant food, 1/4 teaspoon of Myco-Grow or exposure to your local air for a day after the collection of condemned books are dampened.

  Don't drink this - it is not dangerous, but it will be either boring or unpleasant.

  Any left-over solution can be poured on your garden or on your neighbor's weeds.